Recent Criticism Of The English Defence League Is Unwarranted and Unacceptable

By • on June 30, 2011

The EDL is the salvation of England and any attack on it is an act of treachery. It has taken many years to build up the EDL and attempts to subvert it need to be politely discouraged:

Dear Ms. Geller,

We the undersigned are writing to register our astonishment and dismay at your public denunciation of the English Defence League, and in particular your reference to the “neo-fascists that had infiltrated the administration of the group”.

This is a grossly inaccurate and unfair slander against the leaders and membership of the EDL, who have never wavered in their refusal to include neo-Nazis, fascists, or adherents of any other ideology that seeks to divide people based on their ethnicity. The core mission of the EDL has always been, and remains, to stop the encroachment of sharia and Islamic fascism.

For the past two years the English Defence League has been on the front lines of the resistance to sharia and militant Islam in England. Its leaders have put their own lives in danger by doing so. They live under constant threat, not just from murderous Muslim zealots, but from their own government, which has harassed and arrested them repeatedly. Tommy Robinson, the leader of the EDL, has been arrested multiple times, and is currently facing trumped-up charges designed to put him and the EDL out of action.

To paraphrase Geert Wilders: “I was dragged to court by leftist and Islamic organizations that were bent not only on silencing me but on stifling public debate.” The EDL is being dragged into a kangaroo court of uninformed public opinion. The more people’s fears can be raised, the more quickly debate can be smothered.

In the final analysis, as Geert Wilders points out, the strength of our community depends on the freedom we feel to “enter our convictions in the open lists to win or lose”.

All communities inevitably experience conflicts based on differences of opinion. It is crucial that we approach one another’s efforts in good faith, presume the other’s efforts to be well-meaning until conclusively proven otherwise, support initiatives made by others that further our common cause, and refuse to be dragged into parsing ever more finely our differences.

Our ideal of the “perfect” can kill any merely “good enough” effort.

Your unfortunate statements were picked up and repeated by other websites and blogs, some of them quite prominent and well-respected. This has done harm to our common cause, and has driven a completely needless wedge between the American and European wings of the international Counterjihad.

To help heal the damage that has been done, we insist that you apologize in a public forum to the English Defence League.

Its leaders and members are heroes, and their organization is widely considered a beacon of hope in Europe. All Europeans who resist the Islamization of their countries look to the EDL for inspiration, and all of them stand in solidarity with it in its struggle.

We strongly request that you reconsider your deplorable words and withdraw them.

Sincerely yours,

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By An EDL buck on June 30th, 2011 at 7:15 pm

Geller has managed to wind me up, well done Pam, you fuckwit! The reason Roberta Moore was asked to leave the EDL was she wanted to tie us with a Jewish terroist group!

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By Anders Gravers on July 1st, 2011 at 4:44 am

Henrik Ræder from Europe News says he has not been asked if he wanted to be on the list. Maybe he doesn’t want to be on the list because Tommy Robinson admits that there is a problem with antisemitism but says it will be solved and that EDL is 100% behind jews and Israel. These statements from Robinson should end the allegations that Pamela is not loyal to the cause and EDL.
There will always be attempts on infiltration of groups like ours from the red nazis and the brown nazis. The only thing we can do is to clean out when we find them.

I will like to quote from the SIOE manual for leaders:

Warning to leaders.

Naturally, people who join politically incorrect groups like ours tend to be somewhat different from the average run-of-the mill herd animal. As an average they are more individualistic, politically more aware and hold stronger opinions. Probably they are also more intelligent and more courageous. All in all fine people, but not the easiest ones to make walk in step. But the very reason for our forming an organisation is of course to do just that – to work towards a common goal. To do that with such a crowd of individualists is not the easiest thing in the world, and we can only succeed if we concentrate on the one and only goal, that we agree upon. To stop islamisation.
   Be sure that your members have other agendas beside this. But they are all different, so they must be kept strictly away from our work. Otherwise the way to dissention and split-up lies wide open.   
  The key word is one-pointednes!

Our type of organisation – being underfunded – will almost enevitably suffer from lack of qualified personel. We must rely on volunteers, but that poses other serious problems.
   Why?
   Because some – probably most – volunteers are not very qualified. They have to be taught a great deal before they become of much use.
- And because those few who seem to be qualified must be handled with a great deal of circumspection. Their reason to join us may be one of several. 
   1) The volunteer is genuinely and seriously willing to do his/her share to work to counteract islamisation.
2) The volunteer is a plant.
3) The volunteer is one of several kinds of screwball.

1) In the first case you should sing Hosianna – but the problem remains HOW DO YOU DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE THREE CATEGORIES?
That’s where circumspection comes in. 

2) You cannot know if the volunteer is a plant. So you do two things: ALWAYS stay within the limits of the law. If the volunteer is an undercover police officer – well and good: let him/her report back to his/her bosses to his/her heart’s content, and make sure that there is nothing illegal to report!  BUT also make sure that he/she has plenty of work to do! If the government provides us with some unpaid manpower, we might as well use it. An undercover police officer or an enemy plant probably will be more willing to work hard than a bone fide volunteer.
   If the person in question tries to induce you to cut legal corners with the full knowledge that it is our policy to stay strictly on the right side of
the law, he/she is probably a plant.

Another thing is of course that we use the need-to-know principle. Our 
tactical plans are not to be divulged prematurely.

3) The third category, the screwball, comes in several varieties and
varieties’ varieties. Organisations of our kind enevitably act as magnets for people with all sorts of crazy ideas – which they will try to promote inside our organisation, as well as outside it, using its facilities (if any!).
   The cure for this is of course to stick strictly to our policy. We are and
must remain a single-cause movement. If we allow any other ideas, be they marxist, libertarian, new age, ecologic or what-have-you into our midst we will be dead before we know it. 
   Or the screwball may be a power maniac. He/she wants to take over, not necessarily because he has a program of his own, but simply to feel important. He/she spreads discontent and sooner or later he will blow your organisation apart.
   When he is disclosed he will try to do that in any case. And a few months later you may find him doing the same in a rival or even an enemy organisation.
   People in category three are called narcissist types, I believe. You will almost certainly run into some of them. 
   Still others have a political agenda. In our country at least there are
people pretty well trained in spreading discontent and/or worming themselves into influental positions in order to steer the organisation in their direction and to neutralise it. The communists were notorious in that respect.
   They let some well known and respected person stay on as the chairman and figurehead, while they got themselves into the humble but immensely influental post as the secretary. Here they did all the practical work and made sure that the organisation worked the way they (or rather their masters in Moscow) wanted. 
   Remember the peace movements? 
   The person in question may also be a political (or secret police) plant who works diligently to make sure that your organisation stays quiet and politically harmless. Could your hard working secretary be such a one? Think about it! 
   But there are others. I remember a middle aged couple who joined a choir of amateur singers. At first they were well liked and they sang well. But having established themselves they began protesting against some Christian psalms on the choir’s repertoire. That was offensive to their atheist viewpoints, and they threatened to resign if these psalms were not removed from the repertoire. Luckily the choir’s chairwoman held her ground and let them go.
Such things happen all the time, so watch out.

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By DP111 on July 3rd, 2011 at 8:45 pm

What Geller and Spencer have to realise is that the EDL is not a one person band such as that of Geller and Spencer. It is a grassroots organisation based on English working class patriots. There are unsavoury people in any organisation. Can the Democratic or Republican party in the US guarantee that are no racists or anti-semites or anti-Christian or homophobic etc groups in their midst? Can any people’s movement do it? Of course they cant. But neither parties encourage in word or deed, any acts that may bring them to such a pass. So it is with the EDL as well. That is what Tommy Robinson wrote in his letter.

In addition, neither Geller and Spencer have to deal with hate filled Muslim mobs, police brutality, a hostile media, and even legal sanction. Tommy Robinson has a huge task at hand dealing with all the above. I just hope that he has the inner strength to stand up to all this, for it is too much for one person. Then to be attacked in this fashion by supposed friends, when the matter could have been dealt privately, is a bit much.

The EDL, first and foremost, stands in defence of the UK, and the West as a whole -that is its prime goal. Its success, is due in large measure because of the courage of its members who have not just taken to the streets but gone into hostile territory, amazingly in England itself.

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